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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2012, 12:52 AM »
What event do you think might trigger the epiphany -both to Ichigo and Rukia- that they love each other? This is left to your wondering imagination.

I actually thought about this situation in my head. I sort of feel Rukia will have an experience similar to Orihime's:
Ichigo cut down dead right in front of her.

But I see Rukia using her amazing speech giving talents to make a super heartfelt speech meant to revive him, in despation, sort of like "The Ichigo I know is stronger than death, you're not dead!" And then she would throw in a confession with "The Ichigo I love is not dead!" And then a powerful (non-hollow) Ichigo will rise from the ashes and kill the opponent as Ichigo :3

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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #21 on: March 06, 2012, 01:06 AM »
Do you think Ichigo's and Rukia's relationship has changed for good or for bad because of recent happenings (the separation of 17 months and Rukia's comeback?)

From what I see, I think the 17-month separation is necessary because it gives them time to reflect. Ichigo's perspective shows he couldn't keep up the speed of world without Rukia. During the FB arc, it shows evidence about Ichigo's life without her prior to ch460 and with her being back, nothing happens between them and time starts moving again because they reunite. In the later chapters, we'll see their relationship change and how they will realize their feelings about each other.

Kubo is obviously hinting about Ichigo being Yuki's mentor. Do you think this situation may be benefiting to our ship? If so, please explain how.

I don't think so. Like many said, its more effective on Ichigo because this is the next step to his maturity. Rukia taught everything about being shinigami and from her teachings, Ichigo will teach Yuki how to adjust to his duty as a shinigami.

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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #22 on: March 06, 2012, 02:27 AM »
Do you think Ichigo's and Rukia's relationship has changed for good or for bad because of recent happenings (the separation of 17 months and Rukia's comeback?)
I've never looked at their relationship and thought that it's getting bad. Kubo has always managed to make us squeal with joy every time he's brought them together. That's one of the best things about them :) Seventeen months of separation from each other - I didn't particularly like it, but Kubo more than made it up to us with some superb scenes in which he showed us exactly who Ichigo considers as most important to him. Fullbring activation scene anyone? One of my all time favorite scenes because it is a direct insight into Ichigo's head/heart - and what do we see - Rukia separate, alone, away from the friends and family. If that doesn't show how much Rukia means to him, then I don't know what will. Oh, right, Kubo did literally stop the rain in 459 and 460 :D So, absence does make the heart grow stronger. Ichigo could come to terms with the fact that he's lost his powers and is moving on with a normal life and Uryuu was taking over the protection duties for KT. But I don't think he quite accepted the fact that he may possibly (at that time) never be able to see Rukia again. Hence, his "of course not", in response to Keigo's "Don't you miss her?" I loved that scene!
Ironically, the separation has brought them closer than ever. And when they did meet, it was like there was no separation in the first place. Things were, literally, back to the good old days. It was a clear bonus for us when Kubo gave us that oh-so-stunning looking panel of Rukia thinking about Ichigo when he was fighting Ginjou. Hopefully, their next reunion will make us squeal more than ever!

What event do you think might trigger the epiphany -both to Ichigo and Rukia- that they love each other? This is left to your wondering imagination.
Well, ever since I heard about the Bleach play (?) that Kubo loved so much, I keep picturing them together in that scenario. That Rukia may somehow getting close-to-death injured and Ichigo losing it completely and doing everything it takes to save her. And besides, I don't think they need words to express their feelings. Kubo may just give us a heart-stopping panel of them just hugging or clinging on to each other at the end. However, i just know Kubo won't disappoint.


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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #23 on: March 06, 2012, 03:12 AM »
Hello, may I join? :)
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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2012, 03:17 AM »
Ruu-chii, you don't need to ask to join this FC because there will be no members' list here. :)
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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #25 on: March 06, 2012, 03:34 AM »
Yes, you guys are already considered as a member when you signed up on DB.

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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #26 on: March 06, 2012, 04:05 AM »
So many answers to read... My head is swamming with words like "IchiRuki", separation, reunion, 17 months, etc...  All this only make me anticipate the next meeting. I really wonder how Kubo will go about it since, he's already done Ichigo needing Rukia, and her coming to make him stronger scenario twice. Now Ichigo is more sure of himself and his resolve is back in full force. So I can't help but wonder how Rukia is going to be reintroduced, if she has to be reintroduce through Ichigo's eyes like usual... I can't help but think about how their next "reunion" is going to be different than the previous ones. It has me kinda excited lol.

@Brisingr This is a great scenario. When I answered that question, I didn't have the musical in mind. Something like the musical works definitely, although it seems we're all seeing something involving one of them almost dying and the other getting desperate. Or one of them being taken away, in my case...

I find the almost dying scenario painful to think about, especially because Ichigo and Rukia have both gone through the pain of loss, fear of loss and guilt .
- Rukia already saw Kaien dying in front of her eyes and Ichigo getting hurt for her. She left Ichigo in Karakura Town thinking he might die and we know she felt pain and guilt even at that point.
- Ichigo saw his mom dying in front of him although not clearly. He also went through the pain of seeing Rukia get a deadly injury for him. In HM, he felt her reiatsu fading and was told she was dead. As if it wasn't enough, in the last arc there was that horrifying moment when he saw Rukia behind him as Tsukishima attacked.

 But at the same time, this is what has me thinking that maybe those fears of losing each other, might be used to make them canon. Kubo seems really fond of Ichigo panicking over Rukia too He is also enjoying giving the Rukia fans panic attacks like Ichigo, seriously :'(, so maybe he might use that in the future.

@Skilly-n-Duff Love your post so much... Very much so especially because of your Rukia perspective. I love hearing things from Rukia's perspectives and the way you described her and Ichigo ... It's simply beautiful. I'm more Rukia biased than Ichigo's biased, just so you know...
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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #27 on: March 06, 2012, 04:13 AM »
Thanks for the info pikeish :)

Do you think Ichigo's and Rukia's relationship has changed for good or for bad because of recent happenings (the separation of 17 months and Rukia's comeback?)

Hmm, I'm on a bit torn on this one. On the one hand, yes, missing someone for seventeen months straight should a be a pretty good indicator of how important that person is to you. That might cause a change of attitude towards the other person. On the other hand, the fear of losing them again might discourage you from trying to change the relationship – maintaining the status quo is the safest thing to do. Not that that's bad per se: if Ichigo and Rukia are happy with their current relationship, great for them. As to changing for the bad, I don't think that's even possible at this stage: their bond is, after all, unbreakable and beyond the frame of time :)

Kubo is obviously hinting about Ichigo being Yuki's mentor. Do you think this situation may be benefiting to our ship? If so, please explain how.

As Akintosh said, any mentor/student-like relationship that develops between Ichigo and Yuki will be about showing Ichigo's growth and fleshing out Yuki's character. Shoehorning Rukia into there seems unnecessary. I'm not even sure how it would be feasible.

However, I am curious to know how Yuki and Shino view Rukia. She's a vice-captain and a Kuchiki, there's no way they haven't at least heard of her. Are they and Zennosuke from division 13? Because if they are and she's their vice-captain, that could be pretty interesting – she could “entrust” Yuki to Ichigo as it were. Beyond that, no sorry, I don't see how it relates to IchiRuki.

In the coming chapters, do you think that Rukia's return to Ichigo and the team will be one with a big impact, or more like an everyday thing? (Because Ichigo can see her whenever now)

When has meeting /reuniting with Rukia not had an impact on Ichigo? With this being the last and all, it would be a shame to break with tradition now :) That said, it would be pretty much impossible to top “Death & Strawberry 2” so I doubt her next return will be the huge thing it was in that chapter or in “Death & Strawberry Reprised”. But even putting IchiRuki biases aside, I don't see how it could be an everyday kind of thing with everything that's going on at the moment.

Additionally, would you prefer that Ichigo to to S.S to see her and get information, or the other way around as usual, if so then why?

Well, I doubt her next return will involve saving Ichigo. Having her do so again, especially right after her return last arc, would be overdoing it. What I'd really like would be to have the reunion shown from her point of view. We haven't had that since the bridge scene and the rescue scene in SS. (Well okay, maybe that time Ichigo saved her from Yammi, but it was pretty short and served mostly to show how messed up Ichigo was at that point.) But that would involve the readers seeing Rukia before Ichigo does, and I'm not sure that Kubo will go that route: he seems to like to spring Rukia on us as a (very, very) nice surprise.

I always love seeing Ichigo in SS and it seems plausible that he'll be heading there fairly soon anyway, so sure, why not have them meet again there. Or at Urahara's shop. More Urahara is always a good thing too.

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Re: Example of thread FC V1
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2012, 04:34 AM »
1. Rukia is so much older than Ichigo, and the problem between their relationship turning into romantic one is a question of maturity. Even 20 year old has problems with someone 16 year old, so over 100 years old would surely feel like 16 year old is too much of a boy to her. It's hard to get attracted on to someone who's practically a child compared to you. And after all, Rukia does time to time act condescendingly on Ichigo and it's commonly accepted thing in fandom that she's more mature. She's more likely to get interested in Renji, who is supposedly same age as her, or on Kaien, who was older than her.

Whoa, what an argument- it has more holes than Swiss cheese.

First of all, Kaien is dead. Second of all, even if he was alive, he was happily married to a woman he adored so much he died for her. And even if he lived after his wife's death, nothing would have happened. Rukia looked up to Kaien, and who wouldn't? He also treated her like a much loved disciple, and it was beautiful relationship they shared. Putting a romance tag on it takes away (according to me) most of its meaning to Rukia. She admired him deeply, and also his wife- it was the sort of reverential adoration a little girl shows her older brother/mentor/teacher. I don't think having a romantic connection with him ever crossed her mind.

Renji.. is so difficult. I think they could have worked at some point. That is, before he fake!rejoices for her getting adopted. You can see the desperation in her eyes, the silent pleading for him at least to protest.. but he didn't. I think her heart did break in a big way then. And now, I think she's understood why he behaved like that, and their relationship has settled into a warm friendship. I honestly think that is all it will ever be. According to me, even Renji seems to expect nothing more.

Coming to Ichigo, Rukia has never treated him like a child. Ever. I challenge detractors to name an instance, and am sure they can come up with nothing. She has always treated him like an equal, and she should too. Who repaired her relationship with Renji in the first place? Ichigo did. Who helped her make her peace with Kaien's death? Ichigo did. Before Ichigo, she was this self-blaming, lost person who was so broken inside. He healed her. I know some people like to claim that she's just his mentor and all that.. but he's been hers too. In ways that are subtler, but he has. He changed her life as much as she changed his, and that's why I think their bond is special. It will flourish.   

2. While Ichigo was shown thinking about Rukia a few times during the recent arc, Rukia didn't show any hints of having missed him or thought about him during the time-skip. In fact, she has become a lieutenant and all, so it looks like she did quite well without Ichigo in her life. She did show how she believed in Ichigo, but that was something she has done before and something that others, like Byakuya, also show towards him. This argument further supports argument 1.

And this argument is flawed from the start. Just because something can't be seen doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We went through the 17 months from Ichigo's point of view. We have no clue where Rukia was, or what she did. We have no proof that she has not missed him. And if people think that her becoming a lieutenant is a sign of not caring then they're off their heads. She might have missed him as much as he did, as deeply, but that didn't mean she stopped breathing and instead hung around like a lovelorn maiden drenching a hanky with tears. Neither did Ichigo. They both got on with life, maybe not with the same zest, but they did do something. Rukia did, she was incredibly concerned when Ichigo heard her through the badge and she came running to help him. Both Ichigo and Rukia are people of action, not pretty words. They show what they feel.

 


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Re: Example of thread FC V1
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